Dear Friends,
Please see below Dr. Torrey’s note on how you can help to influence the DSM V process. Right now, there is no proposal to measure insight in persons with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder much less require that clinicians diagnose a subtype (with or without insight or with or without anosognosia). Such a requirement will drastically change treatment plans and hospital discharge plans. If a doctor has to diagnosis a lack of awareness of illness, then s/he is ethically obligated to address this problem, this symptom and the nonadherence to treatment it causes. Rather than simply send the person on their way with a prescription they will never fill. I hope you will comment on the website Dr. Torrey reccomends below.
Dr. Fuller Torrey
I do not believe there is such a thing as anosognosia. Those of us with a mental illness may become confused and delusional. We may, in fact, lack insight into our behavior. That does not prove, however, that there is something called anosognosia.
When your son Mike became “psychotic”, it was the lack of insight on the part of his treating psychiatrists to search for and treat the underlying medical condition that caused him to become psychotic.
Mike was immediately labeled with Bipolar Disorder/Manic-Depression.
Ask yourself, did he suffer from mood-swings prior to this incident?
Mike became psychotic because of a physical illness.
Mike became Bipolar because the DSM labeling process is nothing more than a Rubber Stamp Approach that makes life easy for “pill pushers”
The teams of medical doctors involved in putting together the DSM seeking public opinion on how to label those of us deemed “abnormal” are obviously confused themselves and are suffering from anosognosia.
Anti-anosagnosia treatment for psychiatrists should include doing some research on underlying conditions that manifest as psychosis and watching the TV show House.
As stated in an article “About Poor Insight and Diagnosis,” by Dr. Xavier Amador, there have been many scientific research studies that prove that anosognosia does exist in individuals with severe mental illnesses such as schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. Anosognosia was included in the DSM-IV-TR (Text Revision) edition based on scientific consensus, by “bringing together experts from around the United States and overseas to review the research and independently review the [proposed] text….” After a peer review and independent review by experts on the APA Task Force for the DSM-IV-TR, it was determined that “a majority of individuals with schizophrenia lacked insight into having a psychotic illness and that this problem was a manifestation of the illness itself rather than a coping strategy.”
Additional scientific research studies are also listed on page 32 of Dr. Amador’s book “I Am Not Sick I Don’t Need Help!” Just to name a few of the sixteen studies sited: Morgan and David (review in Insight and Psychosis; 2nd Edition; Drake et al. Schizophrenia Research, 2003, Bucklet et al. Comprehensive Psychiatry, 2001; and Smith et al. Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 1999.
An excellent source of information on anosognosia can also be found on the Treatment Advocacy Center’s web site: http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/index.ph… (this same information is also posted on NAMI National’s web site.)
Can you provide information about where on its site the American Psychiatric Association has listed anosognosia? It doesn't come up in a general search, and I can't find it under schizophrenia.
Thanks.
My sister lost her life because of anosognosia. She stopped taking her meds for schizophrenia a few years ago and deteriorated quickly. She did not believe she was sick and thought everyone around her were the sick ones. She was extremely delusional and it was incredibly frustrating and wore on the whole family. She froze to death on a concrete floor in the back of her fathers old house she broke into thinking it was still hers. Please read her story in our local paper that they did after her death. http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=142135.
The reference to anosognosia is only found in the current manual, the DSM-IV-TR (the TR stands for Text Revision) version which was published in 2000. The following information is found on page 304: “A majority of individuals with Schizophrenia have poor insight regarding the fact that they have a psychotic illness. Evidence suggests that poor insight is a manifestation of the illness itself rather than a coping strategy. It may be comparable to the lack of awareness of neurological deficits seen in stroke, termed anosognosia. This symptom predisposes the individual to noncompliance with treatment and has been found to be predictive of higher relapse rates, increased number of involuntary hospital admissions, poorer psychosocial functioning, and a poorer course of illness.”
Does it matter whether we call it anosognosia or denial or whatever?
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet”
If someone exhibits the symptoms should they be treated even if they refuse treatment?
What if they have the plague? Of course we would treat them, because, if not, there is a high risk that they would harm others.
This is the situation with the seriously mentally ill who refuse treatment. We do not need an attorney to define “harm”.
Should we not treat them because they have “rights” – what a silly idea – should someone have the right to harm others? – of course not.
A qualified doctor should be legally free to assess “harm” and to treat, with sensible medical (not legal) checks and balances (multiple opinions or whatever is deemed sensible by the medical profession).
I should have been more precise. Dr. Torrey has encouraged submitting comments to the APA during the public-comment period on conditions under consideration for DSM-5. I'm having trouble finding the precise page on which to submit comments. The comment box is generally on the page were the condition is listed, but I can't find anosognosia on the APA site. Can you help?
Diagnostic recognition of anosognosia in the DSM-5 will have many benefits to the mentally ill and those who love and care for them. In addition to the ones already mentioned:
(1) It will stimulate funding for more research into the condition. The big research NIH grants are skewed toward research on conditions already in the DSM (classic Catch-22). Since evidence is the best basis for accurate assessment and appropriate treatment, more research will promote better diagnosis and care.
(2) It will establish diagnostic standards for anosognosia. The DSM is far from a perfect reference work, and diagnosis of mental illness is notoriously imprecise. Nonetheless, research-based diagnostic standards will foster more accurate and consistent recognition of anosognosia regardless of where or by whom patients are being evaluated.
(3) It will result in co-recognition by the World Health Organization, publisher of the diagnostic bible used by most of the rest of the world. Co-recognition will improve the likelihood of accurate diagnosis and appropriate treatment of anosognosia in people with schizophrenia and bipolar not only in the US but worldwide.
Anosognosia is not good for all. Mike was ill. He was immediately labeled with Biopolar disorder.
I belief that We don’t have much time as the deadline for public comments is less that one month away. Please look at the two articles linked in the column to the right as they will likely be helpful to you .
I belief that We don’t have much time as the deadline for public comments is less that one month away. Please look at the two articles linked in the column to the right as they will likely be helpful to you .
Is third-stage alcoholism considered a mental illness? I’ve heard testimony from many recovering alcoholics: They truly did not know they were ill until they were forced to give up drinking. It was only after their brains were cleared of the effects of alcohol that they could see how truly ill they had become.
After 20 years of experiencing with our family member his denial and inability to recognize he is experiencing an illness or his need for medical intervention….DMH’s & CMH’s are delusional in the sense they are not recognizing the numbers of individuals with this condition….lack of insight….anosognosia….WE KNOW it exists….those most vulnerable are not receiving timely mental health treatment due to their inability and denial of their illness as so noted by CMH’s to treat those most in need of their services….It should be noted as a legal offense when our loved ones are allowed to be discharged from state hospitals with no follow-up for medical observation and care….only to be allowed to decompensate to the point of harm to themselves as well as others…..only then does a system come into contact with them….the CRIMINAL SYSTEM…..
SHAME ON US….LETS CHANGE THIS NOW….
AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION!!!!UPDATE THE DSM NOW TO INCLUDE ANOSOGNOSIA AS A CONDITION WHICH LEAVES SOME INDIVIDUALS WITH BEHAVIORIAL ILLNESS UNABLE TO RECOGNIZE THEY EVEN HAVE SUCH A DISABILITY!!!
The only evidence I have seen by Xavier Amador for Psychiatric Anosognosia is sketchy, conjecture, and rhetoric. I have seen no empirical data that supporst his claims. There are any number of reasons why people with mental illnesses don’t follow through with treatment, or don’t initially realize they are having symptoms. Amador admits this himself when he talks about his own experience with Depression. Psychiatric Anosognosia simply does not exist, and it should not be forced on an already taxed mental health system, and furthermore, it leads to prejudicial treatment of those with diagnoses of Schizophrenia and BiPolar Disorder. The Treatment Advocacy Website is providing flawed information, and the public needs to beware, lest any more of its agenda becomes law.